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Writer's pictureGail Montgomery

Uncovering the Secrets of Deep Listening: A Conversation with the Uh-MAY-ing Bob London!



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In our latest podcast episode, we had the distinct pleasure of interviewing Bob London, Chief Listening Officer, about the transformative power of deep listening in customer success and sales.


Bob, a veteran in customer engagement and strategy, shared profound insights on how businesses can revolutionize their customer interactions through genuine, empathetic communication.

 



The True Art of Listening

Bob is on a mission to help companies go beyond surface-level customer engagement and truly understand their clients' needs and challenges. While many businesses tout the importance of being customer-centric or customer-obsessed, Bob points out that these concepts often remain just that—concepts. His work focuses on turning these ideas into actionable practices by teaching companies how to genuinely listen and respond to their customers.

 

From Corporate Challenges to Customer-Centric Success

Bob’s journey to becoming a Chief Listening Officer is both enlightening and inspiring! Having navigated the corporate world’s challenges and eventually being fired—a serendipitous turn that led him to explore his strengths—Bob’s experiences as a marketing strategy consultant laid the groundwork for his current approach. His customer listening tours, which he describes as “elevator rants,” are aimed to uncover what customers are genuinely dissatisfied with when vendors aren’t around. This approach, which has evolved over nearly a decade and 2,700 customer discovery conversations, has become a cornerstone of his practice.

 

The Common Pitfall: Talking At vs. Talking With Customers

One of the key takeaways from our conversation with Bob was the common mistake of talking at customers rather than engaging in meaningful dialogue. Many teams rely heavily on PowerPoint presentations and slides, which often result in a one-sided conversation that lacks depth and connection. Bob advocates for a “deckless” approach, encouraging teams to focus on strategic, open-ended conversations rather than relying on visual aids as a crutch. To which we say… Yes, AND!

 

Overcoming Barriers to Effective Listening

Listening is harder than it seems, and Bob shared some insightful perspectives on why this is the case. A startling statistic reveals that 85% of people believe they are above-average listeners—a statistical impossibility. This delusion, combined with our brain’s tendency to judge, interrupt, or mentally check out during conversations, creates significant barriers. Bob emphasizes the importance of developing self-awareness, practicing active listening, and cultivating empathy to overcome these challenges.

 

Practical Advice for Teams: Putting Listening into Action

At ExperienceYes, we believe in transforming the way teams interact with customers through actionable strategies. Here’s how you can take the principles discussed by Bob and implement them in your teams:

  1. Conduct Listening Workshops: Organize workshops focused on active listening and strategic questioning techniques. These sessions should emphasize the importance of engaging in meaningful conversations rather than relying on slides or presentations.

  2. Role-Playing Exercises: Integrate role-playing activities into your training programs. Simulate real-life customer interactions where teams practice having deckless, engaging conversations. Provide constructive feedback to help them refine their approach.

  3. Create Feedback Loops: Establish regular feedback sessions where team members can discuss their listening experiences and share insights. Use this feedback to continuously improve communication practices and address any challenges.

  4. Encourage Step-Back Conversations: Promote a culture of reflection by encouraging teams to have step-back conversations with customers. This means periodically checking in to reassess alignment with the customer’s evolving needs and goals.

  5. Lead by Example: Ensure that leadership models effective listening behaviors. When leaders demonstrate these skills, it sets a standard for the rest of the team and reinforces the importance of genuine customer engagement.

  6. Measure and Adapt: Implement metrics to assess the effectiveness of your listening practices. Gather data on customer satisfaction and engagement levels to measure the impact of your new approach. Use this data to adapt and refine your strategies.

 

Building Authentic Connections

What is the ultimate goal? Deep listening. Building authentic, meaningful connections with customers. Technology and tools can support this process, AND they cannot replace the human touch that comes from truly understanding and responding to customer needs. By investing in these power skills and fostering a culture of genuine listening, businesses can transform their customer interactions, leading to stronger relationships and long-term success.

 

Discover how deep listening can elevate your team’s performance and help you become a trusted advisor in your industry.


Bob London believes you should LISTEN FIRST. UNDERSTAND BETTER. SELL MORE.

Hi, I’m Bob London, and in the course of doing 2,700+ B2B customer interviews, I’ve become a globally-recognized authority, speaker & trainer on customer discovery & listening skills.


Why should that matter to you? Because customers say discovery & listening are 2 of the top 3 vendor skills that influence their purchase behavior - and they also say vendors stink at both. It’s time to close that gap.

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Through our cutting-edge Team Workshops and Business Relationship IQ program, we turbocharge soft skills into hard results. Picture skyrocketing sales figures, clients delighting customers like never before, and teams achieving feats of innovation and peak performance.


How do we do it? By training teams to nurture an Improv Mindset for agile thinking, boost Emotional Intelligence for unparalleled client relationships, and refine Empathy and Influence to turn every interaction into a game-changer.


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